combi boilers choice

[drainrod]

please can anyone point me in direction whats best buy ?
baxi platinum 40kw or ideal vogue max 40 kw

 

[EvilDrPorkChop]

Neither. Take a look at Vaillant.

I'm sure someone will be along to disagree However the amount of issues I come across with Baxi and Ideal I wouldn't be having either of them by choice.

 

[Riley]

Or Glowworm energy rebadged Vaillant with minimal changes

 

[Aire]

Out of those 2 I'd go with the baxi. But I would also agree with above and go with a vaillant too.

 

[Scott_D]

What do you want from it?
Quiet
Efficient
Cheap to repair
No frills or lots of technology

 

[ShaunCorbs]

What’s with the 40kw ?

What’s the demand / outlets

 

[townfanjon]

Out of the pair , vogue.
Personally I wouldnt fit , either go Viessmann from our European brothers

 

[Old Account]

Seems anlittle high on output what’s the requirement? If I was you I’d look into Vaillant or viessmann but depends on budget and if it’s for own use or rented property

 

[Millsy 82]

The baxi platinum is a great boiler ones I fitted years ago are still like new.

Not a big fan of ideal. Vaillant I had so many problems with the pumps packing up diverter leaking and pressure sensors playing up that I got put off them and tried baxi been with them ever since.

It is each to their own though ask 10 people get all sorts of answers.

What's your flow rate like as a lot of people ask me for a 40kw but they only have the flow rate for a 33kw.

 

[hammers4spanner]

Let's be honest here it wont matter what brand you go for they all fall to bits with aplomb.

Imho you need to have it installed as per manufactures requirements otherwise you wont get a warranty or guarantee. That's the most important thing is how good your installer is.

For what it's worth having been an owner of various boilers over the years the worst I have had is a Worcester and the best I've had is the universally panned Alpha

 

[Rob Foster]

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[richard978]

please can anyone point me in direction whats best buy ?
baxi platinum 40kw or ideal vogue max 40 kw

I don't fit many boilers these days but I was impressed with Viessman. Very good components on the 100 range.

I've installed a lot of duotecs which were bulky and noisy so I wouldnt opt for one.

 

[Aire]

I don't fit many boilers these days but I was impressed with Viessman. Very good components on the 100 range.

I've installed a lot of duotecs which were bulky and noisy so I wouldnt opt for one.

Can't say much on the duotecs but the new 600 series is really quiet.

 

[Millsy 82]

Can't say much on the duotecs but the new 600 series is really quiet.

I'm fitting quite a few 600's at the moment really impressed. Yes the duotec were noise but they were reliable. 600's are just as quiet as Worcester and vaillant

 

[drainrod]

What’s with the 40kw ? What’s the demand / outlets

 

[Deleted member 7121]

A lot will disagree but Baxi from my experience

 

[Scott_1979]

Another vote for baxi. Duo/plat are great boilers. Big and heavy but reliable and stood the test of time.

Vogue is a decent boiler but they’ve changed the blocks from brass to plastic which degrades the boiler massively in my opinion.

Not overly impressed with Valliant/glow worm

 

[drainrod]

What’s with the 40kw ?
14rads, 5beds, bathroom,(bath and shower) ensuite with drench shower. 3.5bar incoming main steady, why wouldnt i go for 40kw, baxi/vogue 10yr warranty
What’s the demand / outlets

 

[hammers4spanner]

Warranty isn't worth the paper it's written on

 

[Riley]

Combi not sufficient for your demand with two outlets open

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Unvented all day long combi won’t do the shower and drench together

 

[sammathias]

Vaillant and as about the combi won't be sufficient if both showers where running same time.

 

[sammathias]

What's your flow rate?

 

[drainrod]

The baxi platinum is a great boiler ones I fitted years ago are still like new.

Not a big fan of ideal. Vaillant I had so many problems with the pumps packing up diverter leaking and pressure sensors playing up that I got put off them and tried baxi been with them ever since.

It is each to their own though ask 10 people get all sorts of answers.

What's your flow rate like as a lot of people ask me for a 40kw but they only have the flow rate for a 33kw.

3.5 bar on incoming main doesnt drop
60l/min

 

[Scott_D]

3.5 bar on incoming main doesnt drop
60l/min

60??????

 

[Riley]

60lpm???????? I’m sceptical what size incoming?

 

[sammathias]

Hell of a flow cup you got there.

 

[drainrod]

Hell of a flow cup you got there.

Correction. Flow rate 18l/min. 3.5 bar

 

[richard978]

I’m always reluctant to fit 40kw combination boilers, my opinion is that if you need 40kw of hot water output then you’ve chosen the wrong system.

Biggest problem with high output is often the gas service isn’t big enough. Many houses have inserted 3/4 inch gas services and simply won’t provide the volume of gas required. So unless you want your drive digging or live in a newer house, lower output.

 

[Peter J Brown]

Depends what your looking for really, bother with all makes of boilers but if you fit a baxi duo-tec or 600 its 7 years warranty and the platinum is 10 years so you shouldn't really be back at it in a very long time. The Worcester requires there own filter and controller to allow 5 year warranty. as said in a couple o previous messages, fitted the baxi 636 and it is really really quiet. But your choice though

 

[Landmark1965]

I’ve got a Valliant ecotec plus 831 . Installed 2016. Already needed new diverter valve and water pressure switch. Unfortunately did not have a Magnaclean filter fitted until now (2019)which caused sludge to block up the water pressure switch. As a result constant F75 notification where boiler wold not fire on less than 3 bar. Installed new pressure switch and now firing on 1.2 bar no problem.

 

[Aire]

I’ve got a Valliant ecotec plus 831 . Installed 2016. Already needed new diverter valve and water pressure switch. Unfortunately did not have a Magnaclean filter fitted until now (2019)which caused sludge to block up the water pressure switch. As a result constant F75 notification where boiler wold not fire on less than 3 bar. Installed new pressure switch and now firing on 1.2 bar no problem.

Unfortunately this is down to poor installation and not the reliability of the boiler, vaillant are a cracking boiler when installed correctly.

 

[Jerry]

Intergas Eco RF - best technology on the market for a combi. Half the moving components of every other manufacturer on the market. 10 year warranty

Ideal Vogue Max - 12 years. Need I say more?

 

[Aire]

Intergas Eco RF - best technology on the market for a combi. Half the moving components of every other manufacturer on the market. 10 year warranty

Ideal Vogue Max - 12 years. Need I say more?

Don't you have to jump through hoops to get anything repaired under warranty with ideal?

 

[Scott_D]

Don't you have to jump through hoops to get anything repaired under warranty with ideal?

It has to be fitted as they ask in the instructions