Boiler guarantees?

[jonboysez]

Hi all
Apologies if this question has been asked loads of times. Basically I need to replace my "At Risk" combi boiler (Vokera 20-80 RS Turbo 22 years old!) - at some stage the modulator coil has been removed, without my knowledge, leading to the at risk status - the part is obsolete (unless you know different?) I am looking to replace the boiler at minimum cost and have a few short listed and wonder how good the guarantees are (how long you are kept waiting when you call customer services and how long it takes for engineer to arrive etc?) On my short list - Alpha 28CDC with either 5yrs guarantee (or 7yrs with premier pack), Viessmann with 5yrs guarantee, or Vaillant ecotec pro 28 with 2 years guarantee - I have read varying reports about the Alpha and high price of parts when guarantee is finished, but how good is their customer services? Is a good boiler with shorter guarantee better than average boiler with long guarantee? I have 3 bedroomed mid terraced house with 9 radiators - would a 24kw be big enough or do I want a 28kw? I live alone btw.

 

[grahamgas]

Of those three I would go for the Vaillant.

Also have a look at these: Broag-Remeha Avanta Range - 28c

Graham

 

[allstarsystems]

i tend to go for vaillant or worester bosch cdi range two good manufactures worth looking at

 

[SafeGasInstall]

cdi aint the cheep option !

 

[allstarsystems]

no its not the cheapest but a good boiler in my mind

 

[SafeGasInstall]

ohh yessssssssssssss you get for what you paid really ,spend £500 on boiler ferolli or ariston then will cost double in long run

 

[allstarsystems]

also with these b n q boilers you find parts on them are a nightmare to get and the boiler will discontinue within 4-5 years atleast with worcester you know your getting the parts!

 

[Blackcatgas]

Viessmann 100 Vitodens 30kw Combi boiler, gets my vote.

 

[Dave'o]

I personally wouldn't install a boiler without a 5 year warranty..so Viessmann for me too..but saying that..on the cheaper side I've be installing Ideal Logic + and Ariston Genus HE (won "Which? Best Buy 2008 award") both boilers seem to be ok and come with full 5 yr parts and labour.

 

[tamz]

(Vokera 20-80 RS Turbo 22 years old!) - at some stage the modulator coil has been removed, without my knowledge, leading to the at risk status - the part is obsolete (unless you know different?)

May be obsolete but still available
Modulator Coil c/w Spring and Core
Vokera 4751 Elec Magnetic W/spring/core Obsolete : Vokera
amoung others

 

[jonboysez]

Mmmm there are so many differing views about boilers its hard to decide amongst them - I've even seen indifferent reviews about Vallaint and WB. I'm looking for the "Toyota Corolla" of the boiler world, not the Merc or BMW, and definitely not the Fiat Punto (tho the Fiat Panda might be worth a look at and maybe even the Rover?)

 

[Blackcatgas]

Spend the extra money on a decent boiler.

 

[rhp]

How about Intergas? 10 years on the Hex, 2 years on the parts and labour last time I checked maybe more now, plus the advantage of having very few parts to go wrong.

Other than that I would probably plump for the Viessman

 

[jonboysez]

Am I right in thinking that all boilers now have digital controls and display error codes that completely shut the boiler down at the slightest fault? Are there any Sedbuk A models with older style manual controls that don't just shut down like this? (to use the motor car analogy again, I remember the old days where any back street garage could service your Ford Escort but now you cant even change the points or anything without it going to the main agents and attached to a computer!) I don't really want all the fancy bells and whistles just want a boiler thats fairly reliable and easy to fix - has anyone any knowledge of the Procombi a28? (Its basically a Vokera Linea I believe?)

 

[pobsdad]

Pro combi's are made by the company that owns Vokera.Vokera take the Pro combi and improve it,then badge it as their own.Saying that,my procombi 100 is running fine after 2 years.The occasional 'energetic ignition',but works ok.Fault codes are fine if they tell you something,but wasn't it a Vaillant that had about 200 codes,a third of them meaning general electrical fault?

 

[tackleburger]

How about Intergas? 10 years on the Hex, 2 years on the parts and labour last time I checked maybe more now, plus the advantage of having very few parts to go wrong.

Other than that I would probably plump for the Viessman

You ten years on the HEX and 3 years on the rest. Good boilers well underated. you can actually re-program the combi to work as a system boiler or set it up open vented as a heat only or an openvented combi great for older heating systems very clever. no diverter valve or plate heat exchanger, consists of a gas valve, heat exchanger, pcb, pump and a couple of switches and sensors.

 

[tackleburger]

Mmmm there are so many differing views about boilers its hard to decide amongst them - I've even seen indifferent reviews about Vallaint and WB. I'm looking for the "Toyota Corolla" of the boiler world, not the Merc or BMW, and definitely not the Fiat Punto (tho the Fiat Panda might be worth a look at and maybe even the Rover?)

Pound for pound the ecotech pro 28 is great value for money. Only difference between this and the 831 is 1 litre less hot water flow, no tails (make your own hardly difficult) diagnotics are different but still easy, no bottom cover or control flap on the front (most usually fall off anyway) and you need a filling loop. Sounds like a lengthy list but believe me they are a dream to work on and easy to fit. You can get a five year warranty if you go on Vaillant's site and look under find an installer. You won't need the five year warranty anyway as they don't tend to go wrong.

The Viessmanns are good but I don't like the rubber hoses the use inside for waterpipes or the flexi on the expansion vessel, seen these block before not on Viessmans but Vokera's several times. good boilers though and time will tell.

 

[gasmarc]

I would go for viessmann or intergas, broag or anything else that gives a 5 year guarantee , I would not touch any thing else especially vaillant bosch, vokera, keston, to name a few

 

[allstarsystems]

worcester bosch greenstar! Worcester Bosch’s flagship Greenstar boilers have won CORGI’s Boiler Of The Year award for three consecutive years. If you get an Accredited installer you get Free 5 year extended warranty on all Worcester Bosch products. In my eyes you cant go wrong and i havent had no problems yet with them touch wood.